excessive arcing on central vacuum motor brushes?

QUESTION:

I had to replace the brushes on the Vacu-maid central vacuum lately (it has a Lamb motor). When it runs, it arcs way too much, running until the safety relay cuts out to turn it off (it is also pretty hot at this point).
Any ideas what is wrong? I used a special type of stone to clean off the copper commutator that comes in contact with the brushes (I realize that there should be some sparking, but this sparks way too much). Maybe the commutator is too worn to make an even contact with the new brushes?
Anyone have any ideas?

ANSWER:

Or maybe the brushes where not fitted to the commutator? did you take some sand paper and turn it back ways on the commutator and then leave the brushes in place and then turn the commutator back and forth with the sandpaper to wear the brushes down to the correct arc? so they will fit the commutator? worth a try.
Sounds like you better think about a major overhaul here. At the least the commutator should be machined smooth and the motor windings checked for shorts and /or grounds. Stop gap measures could easily kill the motor. If it's already on the way out you'll not waste time trying to revive a corpse. Check replacement motor costs vs. service and repair costs and then decide. Good luck.
Besides what the others said about matching the brushes to the commutator, when ever I have a motor apart, I clean the commutator carefully. Taking a very fine dental tool, I scrape out any crud between the copper plates. Make sure you get all the way down to the bottom insulator. Then I use a fiberglass brush http://www.eraser.com/catalog.cgi?mode=details&product_id=1222 or a http://www.eraser.com/catalog.cgi?mode=details&product_id=1225 to clean the tops of the copper, then once again, scrape out the crud between the plates. By the way, those are two tools that are indispensable in both my tool box and in the shop. They clean electrical and electronic connections better than anything else I have ever used. Be careful though, or you will most likely get fiberglass splinters in your fingers. I am in no way affiliated that company, I simply love those two tools.


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